Originally, any faction member could be killed without loss of reputation, though only if the player character remained [HIDDEN] or in [CAUTION] for the kill without it progressing to [DANGER]. Link: https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/I_Fought_the_LawFallout New Vegas I Fought the Law (Powder Ganger) Quest Walkthrough Quests It may take a couple of times but I always do it if I start on the side of Goodsprings. shamelesscreature 2 yr. ago. [3] This led to deathclaws settling into the quarry and plaguing the northern reaches of Long 15, shutting down caravan traffic to New Vegas. New California Republic (formerly)Powder Gangers It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. [Non-game 1] The prisoner population dispersed, with some following Cooke into Vault 19, and others staying with Eddie as Powder Gangers, and established camps around the correction facility. I did the same when I reached novac and got shunned and now everyone attacks me on sight. [Non-game 1] Given the fact that the convicts working on the railroads were provided with high explosives in their work and were predominantly violent criminals jailed for serious crimes, this created ripe conditions for a prison break. To not get vilified, do not kill every powderganger you encounter. A positive reputation is required to receive the. One can also then prompt further dialogue questioning Ulysses why the Marked Men are comprised of both Legion and NCR soldiers working together, despite the two sides normally being enemies, to which Ulysses will talk about how their feelings of abandonment and suffering have united both in a combined hatred. Later down the line you will be making amny choices that end up affecting your reputation with various factions. Lie to Heck Gunderson about who took Ted Gunderson when taking him back to Heck (+12). If you talk to the guy at the door he should let you in for a hundred caps or something with a disquise. White Glove Society attire is special, since it masks reputations with six factions; the five mentioned above and the Society. Gangers quest is buggedbadly. [4], Before the Great War, the NCR Correctional Facility was the Jean Conservancy, a low-security all-female state prison. Thanks mate. It is affected by positive and negative deeds that affect the faction in question, such as completing quests or killing members, respectively. Our Fallout New Vegas Game Guide includes a walkthrough across this. Whether or not the Courier has provoked Powder Gangers elsewhere, the Powder Gangers here are not hostile unless the player character has established a negative reputation with the faction overall. Ask questions of Pete about Boomer history and comment positively on each of them (+1 each). NCR Correctional Facility Afterward, players lose reputation for killing a faction member regardless of a successful sneak kill unless that weapon is silenced and the player remains completely hidden. IMO the best good guy plan is to not finish Ghost Town Gunfight until you do I Fought the Law. I am Villified, but no matter how many of them I kill they only stay hostile so long as I'm in combat with them. Unlike other mods that add in new races or genders to the Powder Gangers, this mod comes with fully voiced dialogue for these Femgangers that not only reacts to nearby events occurring, such as a named Ganger dying or Quarry Junction being cleared out or Hidden Valley blowing up, but also sound right at home with a criminal. Weird. All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. Both types of reputation are tracked separately, the combination of which determines one's reputation with any given faction. I can still walk into their towns, trade, etc. There will be a man sitting at one of the tables named Meyers, who can play a part in the My Kind of Town questline. I Fought the LawMy Kind of TownEddie's Emissary This quest is pretty bad designed, I mean if you want to clean out the facility you have to play nice with the gangers first? The minimum reputation required for each range are: There is no way to remove reputation points from either scale, except for the NCR, Legion, and Freeside: Beyond that, any positive or negative reputation with a given faction cannot be removed, only offset by a larger Fame or Infamy value. If the player character has a Liked reputation and helps out enough with the Boomers, they will be offered to raise the. This mod only alters a single entry, the Goodsprings Powder Ganger faction, and it only alters one setting of the entry. I think that may be by design. Two additional entrances are opened during the New California Republic assault at the end of the Powder Gangers' questline. Fallout: New Vegas location Leaders Persuade the Great Khans to release the hostages and then tell the NCR to honor the agreement to escort them back to. The Powder Gangers are hostile toward me. Press J to jump to the feed. Equip the armor of the faction the player character is trying to work with to reset reputation to neutral. Eddie can still see through your disguise, but there's a delay between the time where he first spots you and when he aggros. Similar to this, one can "sit" in one of the outhouses in the southwest corner from outside the fence, effectively teleporting them inside the facility. Using faction armor, it is possible to gain a higher reputation than would be possible. A positive reputation may yield positive dialogue, discounts from vendors, and even free gifts from wandering citizens. Factions Where do you find the key for the 2nd floor of the broadcast building at Black Mountain? New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Its a bit more nuanced than that but basically if you shot them you're done, if you didn't you can bring it back. I didn't realize that was necessarily a bug. Once the dialogue is complete, check the Pip-Boy. Working on the Chain Gang is a Powder Ganger-centric quest mod designed to begin in the early game, when the player is being introduced to the chain gang, and ends in the midgame. taking the prison for the NCR or holding the prison for the Powder Gangers. Posts: 3446. Blew up the monorail and succeeded in framing a scapegoat to secure Ronald Curtis' cover (+12). Manage all your favorite fandoms in one place! Trudy is good for food on hardcore and she can have a decent amount of caps. Not undermanned. The faction reputation can reset at an unpredictable time. If any neutral (black in table above), but at least one instance of positive reputation had been gained, or better, Additionally, one can be granted access to the. If you help the Powder Gangers you get an easy source of explosives and reloading powder, a safe road to Primm, several easy starting missions to get you some caps, a discount in the Good Springs store, easy access to Meyers, etc. But I do like betraying the PGs and assaulting the prison in that one quest though. [Non-game 1][5] When the NCR occupied the Mojave, it was commandeered to house prisoners on a work-release program. Bribe him with powder ganger disguise on you. Fallout: New Vegas. A state-of-the-art subreddit from Vault-Tec. BUt that was only after I had only killed the powder gangers in good springs and a 2-3 more on the way between Primm and NCRCF. NCRCF (exterior)NCRPrisonAdministrationNCRPrisonBlockANCRPrisonBlockBNCRPrisonVisitorsCenter Support items like the NCR Emergency Radio will also become useless, and faction privileges like the McCarran monorail will be lost. The following is based on Fallout: New Vegas cut content. A negative reputation may result in negative attitudes by the citizens and higher prices when trading. Joined: Sat Jan 20, 2007 6:58 pm. No I did not know, I don't spend my time looking through ALL of the mods. But it is a difficult quest for low level characters. So I became Shunned to the NCR and expected that the next time I ran into one of them I would immediately be attacked, but to my surprise I wasnt. NVCE changes their appearance. Ever wanted to live the life of a raider. Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. Eddie, the leader of the remaining Powder Gangers, has set up his headquarters in the administration building. It worked for me. For Fallout: New Vegas on the Xbox 360, a GameFAQs message board topic titled "Shunned from Mojave Outpost and Vicki and Vance Casino in Primm". Privacy Policy. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_reputations#Gaining_reputation_points_9. The reputations are listed below in alphabetic order. Towns will never be permanently hostile to the player character; leaving the town for three days and returning should remove any hostility. By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. Seems like it would make more sense if it could have been negotiated with NCR to let Meyers be the sheriff then Meyers could deputize the other Neutral Powder gangers as his police force. He helped the gangers take the town and "received rep with the gangers" which promptly disappeared. 2023 GAMESPOT, A FANDOM COMPANY. I rerolled and did a not so nice guy however. Unresolved: Release in which this issue/RFE will be addressed. You have to be sneaking (crouched) and you have to be hidden (it'll say [HIDDEN] at the top of the screen when you're [HIDDEN],) to avoid gaining negative reputation with whatever faction you're stealing from. Joe Cobb): At this point, the player character can choose to either kill Pearl (which will drop their reputation with the Boomers to Vilified) or fulfill their promise. *shrugs*. If loading a save is not an option, there are only 3 quests which let you gain Novac fame in order to get back to neutral or positive standing. You can always try to wear a PG outfit and sneak in that way to the prison and talk to the leader in the Admin building. I thought being "shunned" toward a faction would result in them attacking me on site? The gangers weren't even on my rep list despite being hated with goodsprings..not neutral not hated not likednothing. I can't remember if he can see through the disguise or if its just the door guard so you may need to talk to him quick before he becomes hostile. The elite society only accepts the finest candidates. You keep the Trudy, the bartender, and Doc Mitchell alive, so thats a plus. Hostile is different. With the exception of the White Glove Society, Great Khans and Powder Gangers in Vault 19, all factions will attack the player with a negative reputation. Eddie holds the key to the Average locked room, which contains a substantial stash of ammunition and explosives. Powder Ganger Rusher: An outfit fit for a psycho. Complete Andy and Charlie by passing the 60. The actual quest to take back the NCRCF is buried within the quests to help the Powder Gangers. I completed Run Goodsprings Run and it gave me a Shunned reputation with the NCR. There is no real way to fix this on consoles, apart from either restarting or reloading an earlier save, confirmed to happen on both casual and hardcore play modes. Just before you enter the room with Eddie, take a hit of Turbo and try to beeline to Eddie spamming the talk button while doing that. What was your reputation with them at that time? They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. You've actually got to betray them to get that outcome. Even after siding with the NCR and retaking the prison, the alarm will continue to sound. Both Jacob Hoff and Bill Ronte were successfully cured of, or convinced to seek help for, their additions (+12). He even ask for the pardon and he want to protect primm from any harm by his frontier justice and put on the sheriff's uniform to make things cooler. Once you're past that point there's very little you can do. All rights reserved. The legion definitely has some bug, i always treated them like varmint shooting them whenever i saw them in my first game and they still talked to me and remained calm. You could try wearing a Powder Ganger outfit, sneaking into the building Eddie is in and using a Stealth Boy (the bodyguards and Eddie see through the disguise). Yeah, but given the circumstances the NCR are serving as the marshals, troopers and governor therefore they would have the power to pardon and deputize at their own discretion. Once the Boomers are turned hostile via combat (even after completing Volare! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts, communism is a preferable alternative to communism. How do you get the key to open a set of doors in sunset sarsaparilla headquarters? My game is unlucky enough to be severely bugged when it comes to the Powder Gangers so Im real weary now when it comes to something to do with my . There is only one person known by the name of Joe Cobb in association with the word "gang", and that is Joe Frank Cobb (a.k.a. I tend to have the same problem with the Legion as well. Huh. Broken, bitten, maimed and cut. Here's the thing about stealing: Don't get caught. Always alone? Several Powder Gangers mill about the yard, and several are posted at the tops of the towers. In cell block B, the Courier can find Carter, a small-time trader, who has set up shop in the cell block. What happened was is I sided with good springs at the beginning and killed all the other guys, then after being vilified I used console commands to set my rep with them to neutral and when that didn't work, idolized. When I was just shunned second time they did not turn hostile and I could talk to Eddie. Buildings Merchants Fixed: Release in which this issue/RFE has been fixed.The release containing this fix may be available for download as an Early Access Release or a General Availability Release. Contents 1 Background 2 Organization 3 Relations with the outside 4 Technology 5 Interactions with the player character 5.1 Quests 5.2 Effects of player's actions 6 Members 7 Notable quotes 8 Endings With every faction except Goodsprings, the Boomers and Novac, reputation will reset to neutral. Convince Heck Gunderson against cutting off the food supply to the Strip (+12). Basically the same problem I had. Helping the town is the more moral choice. For specific low-level range values for various factions, see the talk page. Eddie dies under any circumstance, which will happen as part of the, The only exception to this is if Eddie dies during the NCR attack on the, Turning in Vault suits as part of the quest, The skill check required to do this can be bypassed by never mentioning that the White Glove Society was behind, Complete Beyond The Beef by either failing to convince, or encouraging, Heck Gunderson's proposed embargo of his meat products for the Strip after he learns that the White Glove Society was behind his. Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. The leader of the local Powder Gangers, Eddie, will be killed if one sides with the NCR or can be saved if they help the Powder Gangers. He is not a Powder Ganger and says he is only staying there to serve out his sentence out of respect to the NCR. NCR Correctional Facility appears only in Fallout: New Vegas . Warden Nathan EddieSergeant Lee (optional) It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. 1K. If you do it fast enough, normal dialogue will ensue and you can start I Fought The Law. [Non-game 1] Some embarked further south to cause mayhem along the Interstate 15. Donate doses of either Med-X, Fixer, RadAway (+1 per dose, up to +3 at a time if the maximum amount of multiple doses are given at once). Also, assuming you care about what your reputation is with the Powder Gangers, the reputation reduction you by killing them in the quest hardly affects anything regarding the three or four quests regarding the Powder Gangers. Quests I only start in Goodsprings occasionally. I have no idea if that works, though. (So they wouldn't fall off cliffs). Also I tried a disguise but it didnt work. kill sh t heads for early game karmaand no body can touch my sweet Sunny Trudy sandwich. Upon entering the facility through the front door, one will find themself in the visitor's center, a lounge-like area with tables, a desk, a first-aid box and a counter with a broken terminal on it. Disguises are only available for the five big factions (Brotherhood, Legion, Khans, NCR, and Powder Gangers) and, as such, only mask the standing with those five factions. NCR Correctional Facility appears only inFallout: New Vegas. The New California Republic Correctional Facility (commonly abbreviated to NCR Correctional Facility or NCRCF) and known before the war as the Jean Conservancy,[Non-game 1] was an NCR prison located southeast of Goodsprings that currently acts as the main settlement of the Powder Gangers and a staging point for raiding the local area in 2281. Defend the NCRCF from the NCR attack, keep Eddie alive (+12). By far the easiest way is to load an earlier save. you can beam yourself inside the prison by using an outhouse inside (from outside) that you can see from the south part of the prison. --------------COMPATABILITY-------------- Powder Gangers are not good guys, you get good karma for killing them so why if you are playing a good character are you bothered that they don't like you? The one exception is the Brotherhood of Steel: Only Mister Sandman works, as even silenced weapons and C-4 will cause the Brotherhood to turn hostile. Also, be aware that karma is largely irrelevant in New Vegas and that it is infamy with specific factions which gets you shunned by them. Though not active in game, it is included for the sake of completeness. If one has gained a reputation with them (whether good or bad) it will not reset to neutral if the player character equips a faction armor. New vegas has two settings, rep and hostility. I think that the game would have been much better suited if they had replace all the Powder Gangers with random raiders, Eliminated their two missions or at least the option to side with them, and then spent the extra time fixing glitches in the game. Quest scripts themselves rarely grant Infamy towards factions, but there are a few which do: A town's reputation determines the player character's treatment by the townsfolk. Powder gang merchants will sell to the player character with 1-to-1 exchange rate. I think you can also start Come Fly With Me just by entering the REPCONN Test Site, without talking to anyone in Novac. Refusing to participate in this quest, as long as it is done politely, will still earn Fame, albeit much less (+1). A locked cell contains his "stash," consisting of bottle caps in an ammo container. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Warden's terminal It's true that Powder Gangers are very useless. Some will make certain people hate you, and some will allow certain people to trust you. There seems to be a lot of Powder Ganger questions today. They disappear completely from the storyline after the opening area. Offer additions to the Boomer school curriculum for the. You get a lot more caps if doing the Goodsprings side, 100 caps initially, 150 when you meet Ringo at Crimson Caravan. I say steal the key from the door guard, run in wearing the disguise, and then try to talk to Eddie about doing the quest. I swore that this time around I wouldn't kill any of them, except in the Goodsprings thing, but I just can't help myself from killing every single one of them.
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