The next suggestion is to use good magazines. Looking for tips on how to keep your M1 Carbine in tip-top shape? But it is not uncommon to run across an M1 Carbine, especially a shooter-grade gun, that has some kind of weird problems that are not always easy to fix. I believe this is a near copy of the original, but it is a reproduction that I produced based on the original design criteria from FM 23-7, "Carbine Caliber .30 M1, M1A1 . That is not unusual for a modern gun like the AR. The sear is under spring tension. 14. M1 Carbine I found the following on page 38 of War Department Technical Manual TM9-1276 (http://www.90thidpg.us/Reference/Manuals/TM9-1276_1947.pdf) from 1947 which supersedes TM 9-1276, Ordnance Maintenance, Carbines, Cal. This is our fourth and final (Maybe final. Get in touch with us and well help you out, whatever it is you need, even if you just have questions that need answering. If it slides, grease it (lightly). HK P7M13 Armorer's Manual. As luck would have it I found the address in a previous post. type 1 - early stocks with high wood and I-cut oiler recess. So that is what were talking about today. TM 5-9341A - Repair Instructions for SNIPERSCOPES Models M1 and M2 August 1951 - This is one of two manuals dealing with the operator and the organizational mechanic (lower down the page you will find TM 5-9341), plus field and depot level maintenance (this manual, TM 5-9341A). 30CAL M1 Carbine Magazine, 5rd. Check the chamber to make sure the weapon is safe. Over a 100!!! If you enjoy the forum please consider supporting it by signing up for aNES Membership The benefits pay for the membership many times over. Well, that was OK, then. But I was hoping that replacing the recoil spring (an easy task) would take care of most of the malfunctions. You are using an out of date browser. True. on April 14, 2014, There are no reviews yet. At this point, I had about 600 or 700 rounds through the gun without cleaning it. (Ive got a few reject M16A1 lower forgings sitting around. It can be locked in the rearward position by pressing down on the small button (4) attached to the charging handle. If your M1 rifle has a metallic tinny sound when cycling the op-rod; this is a good indicator that additional grease is needed. Use light preservative The exact song and dance to achieve this takes a bit of practice, but as youll see, its possible. Although I have applied the same grease points found on the garand to the carbine. I don't know why the op springs are so greasy dirty all mine are as if they don't wash them along with the rest of the gun. Using machinists blue, coat the trigger engagement surface and inside hammer hooks and cycle the trigger to check hook contact. Youll get to find out next time. Next up is removing the bolt. 13270 LOT OF 3 M1 CARBINE MANUALS - a- SCARCE EARLY FM23-7 U.S. CARBINE, CALIBER .30 M1 (MAY 1942)- 140 pages 4.375" x 6.75" in VG-fine condition. The spring and guide rod can be separated. I found information about the suggested areas to grease on the M1 Garand at. HK USP Armorer's Manual. That range trip was just a couple of days ago. But I saw a picture recently of an Israeli schoolteacher shepherding her grade-school kids along, with an M1 over her shoulder. I have been told the M1 Carbine was originally designed to mainly be oiled, hence the oiler. HK USP Series. I have been told the M1 Carbine was originally designed to mainly be oiled, hence the oiler. If you are looking for a really fun piece of history that is easy to maintain, thats easy to work on, and easy to turn into a modern self-defense rifle with ultimate reliability, do not buy an M1 Carbine. This begins with the waterproof, scratch proof, fade and oil resistant dye-sublimation printing. Universal Manual (3 MB PDF file). You will receive an order confirmation e-mail with your order number. TITLE: U.S. CARBINE CALIBER .30 M1 AND M1A1 AUTHOR: WAR DEPT. What is quality ammo? Reject because theyre made of 6061T6, not of 7075 alloy, which is stronger. The bolt requires a special disassembly tool, which I did not have access to. Note there's extra technical detail and a Additional comment actions. $3.50. Please describe a proper lube of an m1 carbine and type of oil/grease used. Wait, What? And There is one exception and that is Fulton Armory. 9 MM .45 ACP. Field Manual FM-23 82, 106mm Recoilless Rifle M40A1, Vietnam War: HK USP Compact. waterlogged, were I don't "clean" my guns that often. Just says: "Wipe all surfaces clean with cloth, then wipe all surfaces with a patch or cloth that has been very lightly oiled." Also mentions lightly oiling bore after cleaning. BASIC FIELD MANUAL: This is the "War Department Basic Field Manual" for the U.S. Carbine Caliber .30 M1 and M1A1. If it rotates, oil it.. Carbine must never be greased. HK USP40 Compact. I'm amazed at the difference the internal grease makes now in the sound of the Garand action - from a previous snappy metallic clank to a dull muted thunk now. And there have been other reproductions over the years, they go back to the 50s and 60s. FAS AR611 Air Rifle Manual (English) View . I dont know. Back in WWII, they would not have had that same expectation of their guns. Since then hes taken many others out to the range for their first time. Kits will show signs of use/wear, storage, rust, etc. Army hit like a ton This step is a bit tricky. from field Manual 23-4. springs and the new slide, but with a screw for the slide key. If youve got an M1 Carbine that has one malfunction every thousand rounds or so, thats pretty good. You can also view the M1 Carbine Field Manual HERE. Thank you sling00, if you happen to find the 1953 version I'd love to have a copy of it also, never seen something like this before, just great. He is a husband, father, grandfather, police officer, outdoorsman, artist and a student of history. It was designed that way. MaxIcon. HK SR9. Genius Ecommerce by 1Digital. Follow the arrows to proceed with the trigger group takedown. And finally, use quality ammo. That is one of those arbitrary terms that no one really likes to define. Keep the piston dry. After that, it was sold back to an American distributor who sold it on the commercial market here. We didn't have any experience with semi automatic rifles and how to take care of them. First, these guns are really old, especially the actual GI models. A screwdriver or an original sling snap will work to unlock the bayonet lug assembly, which holds the receiver to the stock. If it still fires, then either you or someone before you kept that thing clean. It just means it is in compliance with the written specifications. The weapon is fed from a box type magazine having a capacity of 15 rounds." So, for $35, I ordered an M1 Carbine bolt disassembly tool. But did you remember to keep your M1 carbine magazine clean? This is where I would stop the field strip for quick cleaning and leave the remaining process for an occasional takedown. I found it didn't go to a site but if I highlight the entire address, right click on it, and use the "Go to. the entire Chinese HK P2000. But for an A2 barrel. Add to WishList. The bolt should be closed with the safety on as shown below. I got my first M1 carbine for guard duty, etc. M1 Carbine Manual (English) . Operating CLP. WWII M1 Carbine Rifle Manual. thick quilted jackets dust. In Israel we used M1 carbines as the standard weapon for Civil Guard, a volunteer police auxiliary. Please note that pricing on exploded view of parts (EVPs) is subject to change. M1 Carbine Accessories; Parts; Magazine; Cases & Bags; Manual; Sort By: Quick view Add to Cart The item has been added. primitive publishing style - it's not as marketing-oriented as the later The barrel is also Inland and its stamped with an import mark that reads Blue Sky, Arlington, VA.. However, this basically covers all WW2 models, and therefore is a bible for the WW2 collector. The likely history of this gun is that sometime after the war, it was loaned or given to one of the USs allies to use in their military. I dont know that its all that important to always choose ammo from a specific place or a specific type. So the moral of the story is that you can follow the recommended practices and you can absolutely increase the reliability of the gun that way. M1 and M1A1 .30 Caliber Carbines. You will get visual guidance on how to strip different parts and the precautions to take. You are the (insert pronouns here!). The hammer might be hitting it in the wrong place or something. It used 30 calibre cartridge and had an effective range of 300 yards or about 270 met. Julias Van Den Stock of Company A, 32nd Regimental Combat Team, 7th Infantry Division with M1 or M2 Carbine, rests on a Chinese Communist bunker with a Soviet DP light machine gun, along the slope of Hill 902 north of Ip-Tong. Why Do I Need to Clean an M1 Carbine Magazine?Your gun wont feed or fire if the parts are dirty and corroded, right? Before we get into the specifics, there are a couple of things you might want to keep in mind. The bolt is often the most difficult part to remove from the M1A, so the video will thoroughly guide you through this. Watch the video below for all the details, or scroll down to read the full transcript. And in some cases, the steel-cased ammo is not bad either. Disassembly is, fortunately, easy. H&R 700. See TM9-1276 or FM23-7. 1967-1976. 3.In between: Get a magazine brush! And I think that malfunction was actually magazine related because the other thing I noticed is that with the 30 round magazines, I had more failures when I filled them all the way to capacity. the manual was made to instruct in the use of lubricants for a war time/battlefield use. for example, Ive seen non-chromed M16 barrels sold as mil-spec which might be OK if it were an old 1:12 barrel made in 1965. If you want your carbine to work right and last a long time use both oil and grease. 1.Periodic cleaning: Follower and exterior Luckily, after most trips to the range, you really only need to provide cursory maintenance to your M1 carbine magazine. English FM 23-7 U.S. Carbine, Caliber .30, M1 1942-05-20 "The U. S. carbine, caliber .30, Ml, is a self-loading shoulder weapon (see fig. .30, M1, Maintenance and Repair : 1943: Graphic Training Aids: GTA 9-1 A-H: Carbine, Caliber .30 M1; Color Chart, 8 pages : Aug 1943: There is a hidden guide lug that runs in a track inside the receiver. Keeping the mag clean is the first step to ensuring that your gun will feed smoothly the next time you bring it to the range. Thoroughly clean and lightly oil all metal parts. Folks should get a reasonable answer to a reasonable question. For example, I can run thousands of rounds through my AR-15 and as long as I keep dumping lube in the thing, it never malfunctions. Later, in seminary, I volunteered along with many of my classmates in the neighborhood Civil Guard. Any grease will do. Assemble carbine and rub all outer surfaces with a lightly oiled rag to remove The manual covers Mechanical training: assembly, care and cleaning, and operation. Less wear in the internals I suppose. When I was a wee lad I spent a bit of time 1967 putting a few thousand carbines in order for issue to indigenous troops. I took the gun back out a couple days later and started having issues again. Generally, you probably dont want to use questionable reloads from your buddys garage or something like that. "Operator and Organizational Maintenance Manual Including Repair Parts and Special Tools List / Rifle, Caliber .30 M1 / Rifle, Caliber .30 M1C (Sniper's) / Rifle, Caliber .30 M1D (Sniper's) / M-1 Garand" . I've seen all sorts of debates on line about grease versus oil, but nothing about what areas need to be lubricated. It was written when the Army had depots full of parts and people to change them. For lube I would try what works on the M14 type rifles: Tetra grease on the lugs and perhaps a little LSA CLP (AR15 lube) on the bolt carrier and bolt shaft. It could be causing some of the problems. I use a trailer hitch 500 deg grease that goes for about $5 a lb at Kragens or Wal-Mart. Rather than rail at the nonsense, we thought we'd talk sense instead, and see how that catches on. Universal M1 Carbine Operation Turns out, the thick quilted jackets the Reds had, especially if they were good and waterlogged, were pretty well .30 Carbine proof. Remove the magazine and then pull the charging handle to the rear. An original 15 round magazine thats compatible with the platform? And it was. TheGoldenCaulk 2 . For example, when the M16A1 was standard issue, one could be turned in for higher-echelon maintenance if the barrel was shot out. Look for wear patterns, and apply oil to those areas. QTY. May 23, 2013 at The rifle was issued to me (as opposed to signing it out for a specific shift) as part of the callout squad. I bought an M1 Carbine spring kit from Wolff Gunsprings. It was replaced in 1944 with sliding ramp sights that could be adjusted for windage. You can look back at the Carbines TFB coverageHERE. Step 2: M1A Cleaning It's my contention, after a very thorough cleaning, a light coat of oil on everything and a dab of grease on areas that rub together. So were talking about a 75 year old gun; not just old technology, but really old parts. But for the most part, the failures arent a huge deal. i would recommend against LSA on the AR/M16 platform. This is not your go-to place for gun laws or gun politics; other people have that covered. Rare 1947 dated U.S.A official army manual related to SPECIFICALLY the infamous M1 Carbine. My search skills must be weak because I can't find this information on line. I just wanted to say thanks for these M1 etc. For example, when the M16A1 was standard issue, one could be turned in for higher-echelon maintenance if the barrel was shot out. With the feeding failures, usually the round just hangs up on the feed ramp and you run the charging handle and its good to go. Dummy and Inert Grenades, Mortars & Rockets, Buttplates, Grips, Stocks, Forends & Handguards, Rocket Launcher, Bazooka, Cannon and Mortar Parts, Women's Tactical Gear, Accessories & Gifts, Flags, Stamps, Decals, Posters & Wallcharts, Everyday Carry Knives, Tools & Accessories. The commercial reproductions like the Universal or the Plainfield, and more recently, the Auto-Ordnance or the Inland (not the original Inland Division, but the more recent company thats using the Inland name to make reproductions), they just dont run as well. I don't have an issue with it, but it needs a cleaning and lubrication. Just expect that these guns are going to be a little finicky and each one might run better with a certain brand or load. Those are still fairly plentiful and not crazy expensive, though they are not always easy to track down. I shot about 300 rounds of that particular brand and had just one malfunction. LARGE, CLEAR DESIGN - This M1 Garand gun cleaning mat measures 12" x 36" and is 3mm thick. Click on the links below or you can even do a search. New Arrivals. H&R Buffalo Classic . M1 Garand Operation and Maintenance Guide 2013. p317. Page 9 is cleaning and lubrication of an Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine. Push and hold the exposed plunger out of the way and then pull the magazine catch out. Fieldstrippimg the M1 Carbine A GOOD MANUAL. I have a new Auto Ordinance M1 Carbine, never had a M1 Carbine before. I cleaned my spring when I got it, but did not re-grease it. Call Us for Help! Well you've come to the right place because this category contains owner's manuals and exploded views of parts diagrams. In my opinion any of the ones marked excellent/higher drop point are o.k. When you are ready to shoot, run a dry patch through the bore first. Name / Description. They were far more comprehensive than I was aware of, as I had only the bolt lugs greased. M1 Owner's Manual & EVP (1967-1976) Model Number. Most gun-culture types have a certain fetish for MilSpec and seem to think that military specs are always higher that civilians standards. Keep the bottom of the mag covered with your hand before removing the plate because the spring will want to shoot out once you remove the bottom plate. All right, so that does it for the M1 Carbine. Probably final. If you look at it, it is definitely showing its age. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Posted June 14, 2019 in Editorial, Rifles, Semi-Auto, TFB FIELD STRIP by Doug E with No CommentsTags: .30 carbine, korean war, M1 Carbine, Vietnam War, ww2. Hmmm. surfaces of barrel and operating slide. This is the 1947 version. M1/M1A1 Carbine Manual August 8, 2011 Ian McCollum Manuals 14 Okay, so the M1 Carbine isn't exactly a forgotten weapon. No MilSurp ammo shot, so I don't have to immediately clean it. Grease will slow down the action and cause malfunctions such as not fully cycling. So I looked in the action and noticed that it was looking really gritty. Close the action so the bolt is in the forward position. So its only a sample size of one but I think it might be of some value to some of you, especially if you are considering maybe purchasing one of these. It weighs approximately 5 pounds. Parts and furniture mixed manufacture and type. 2 If your M1 Garand has a sling attached remove it now. This is the first regular FM issued for the M1 carbine, but was prepared using early trial versions for the photographs. After the retirement of the M1 Carbine, it was still in use by police departments around the world. Universal M1 Carbine Operation and Maintenance Manual Universal M1 Carbine Information Page MaxIcon First Generation Universal Manual (7 MB PDF file) - Thanks to Jim at http://www.m1carbinesinc.com/carbine_universal.html for this great example of an early manual! Larry Gibson. Ive owned two other M1 Carbines that both had very similar problems. minutes of angle. I had much better luck the next time I took it out. Did I say never????? efficient functioning of the carbine: c. But there are a few things we can do to help mitigate those factors. Try: sling00, your link to the 1953 version did not work for me, not sure if it worked for anyone else. It would just turn to ash which is bad. Doug can be reached at battleshipgrey61 AT gmail.com, or battleshipgrey61 on Instagram. M1 Carbine. And again, theres no telling whats going on with this thing. If you apply oil, apply it very sparingly because excess oil traps dirt and grime and is a magnet for new fouling, which you dont want to attract after youve just cleaned the mag! Im not exactly sure what to make of that, but it doesnt look right. That can be hard to do because you have to disassemble the bolt, which requires something like three hands and four screwdrivers. That allowed me to replace the ejector spring and extractor spring. screw for the slide) and Hopefully, theyve been replaced at some point, but if they havent, you can count on those causing problems with reliability. That is, you must hold over your point of impact by about 1.5 to 2.5 inches to allow for the distance of sights over bore. Theyre not cheap you gotta pay for that quality. Well, it depends on the civilian! I just finished greasing my M1 Garand according to these instruction. $15.00 . It makes taking apart that bolt a piece of cake. Parts Availability. If there is a magazine in it, remove it, then lock the bolt to the rear, at which time you can physically and visually ensure that there is no round in the chamber or in the magazine well. Open navigation menu. It does, and magazine failure is a real thing. The Garand was not greased by CMP when I received it - save for the op spring. Thats well above average for a gun from that era. The Carbine Collectors Club is a CMP Affiliated Organization. . If your firearm fails to fire, keep the muzzle pointed in a safe direction for a minimum of 30 seconds. It was published by the War Department April 23, 1944. If you look into how to make these guns more reliable, youll run into a few of the same recommendations over and over. Just as vague as the original manual, apparently. So there is no telling what has been done to this gun over the years. CRB064. Then again, this isn't rocket science. [Part 2], The Best .22 LR Handguns for Concealed Carry. SEE THE LINK BELOW. But the 6061 lowers will probably be durable enough). But since we do have a bunch of information on the prototype carbine designs that led to it, I think we should also maintain some data on the final product itself. PREPARATORY TO FIRING. Im sure some of them work just fine, but on average, the commercial copies are just not as well made. Well see) installment of our series on the much beloved M1 Carbine. Doug has been a TFB reader from the start and is happy to be a contributor of content. especially if they Copyright 2015-document.write(new Date().getFullYear()) NONE OF WHICH IS AVAILABLE TODAY. All Rights Reserved. Depending on the size of the wear pattern, apply more or less oil. I never have any problems with it and I dont expect to. This one has a barrel thats stamped March 1944 and I bet most of the rest of the gun is at least that old. Main Servicing (when initially purchased & every 5000-6000 rounds) Disassemble & Clean the Erma completely Reassemble following the instructions (includes suggestions on lubrication) Disassembly Preparing for Disassembly Before you start, remove the magazine, pull the slide back and bolt open. I had roughly one malfunction every one or two magazines. (Mind you, I dont know if it was a recent picture). spring air, BB cal, barrel slide action repeater. First of all, use an original GI-issued Carbine. But from everything Ive heard of them, they work just as well as you can expect any M1 Carbine to work. I've had no problems with it spring wise; the op-spring is the full 25.5". If you use oil exclusively, you are inviting wear on the slide tabs and channels on the side of the barrel, you are going to wear out the bolt lug recess on your slide (where the bolt lug rattles around) you will wear out the tab and slide recess in the side of the receiver and you will wear the rails inside the receiver where the bolt slides. If it does, youll need to do a deep clean. I'll have to have another range trip to test it properly lubed up. I just took off the rail and the optic because you guys made me feel bad for defacing a piece of history not really. Grease makes absolutely no difference in how any of them function or shoot. Theres no telling how many of its original parts it still has or when those parts may have been replaced. UN Most of the manuals are downloadable in Adobe Acrobat format. M1 Carbine. 5 thoughts on " M1 (etc) Carbine overhaul manual " Medic09 May 23, 2013 at 15:20. Clean these with a mild fouling solvent if they are coated, then use an abrasive brush to remove any fouling or oxidation that has accumulated on them. Its also amusing to see how many mil-specs you need to acquire to get the complete specifications for a given rifle. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Then, they put the gun back in the case or the safe, without so much as a second thought for the M1 carbines magazine.